what?!? in england?!?! last month, i just watched Sylvia for the first time (with Gwyneth Paltrow and Daniel Craig), and there’s a great intro scene of her riding her bike to school in England.
i don’t remember liking her growing up, but i haven’t read her since. there’s depressing, and then there’s manipulative. the movie was interesting as a biography, though, and i don’t think she’s supposed to be likeable.
I didn’t read her either, I read ‘the Bell Jar’ in high school, it’s such a depressed highschoolers book – and I had a copy of Ariel. yeah, I don’t think she is meant to be likable – I remember reading somewhere that she struggled to establish herself as a “real” poet, not a woman who is a poet – that requires some unlikability and roughness..and manipulation of language and emotion, I guess…
the notion that women can only make sentimental art, that they can’t subvert meaning or control emotion, but just let it out uncontrollably..i think that distinguished the ‘woman poet’ at least in ’67 or whenever. she meant to resist that image..but in the process i think she goes overboard, overdoes it a little
ah, with many things, i find that the harder you try, the closer you find yourself back to square one…(smile). i can’t decide if i’m a ’67 “woman poet” or not (grin).
Ha, I dislike Plath’s poetry just for the poetry and nothing about her. Don’t like the ‘work’ at all–never have and probably never will. Bell Jar was sort of interesting for the mentality it expressed but–but who wants to be ‘Plath’? Not moi. Though I did know a dude that so loved Plath I dubed him “PLath’s Man”. So NO PLATH for my daily readiing doses. Nope. LOL.
Hate that poem. Plath was such a whiner. I wonder if I’m the only person who is not sorry she did the oven gig and succeeded. Awful thing to say–but–hey, otherwise she’d have kept on writing and –well, I don’t have to read her. But her greatness eludes me.
she’s supposed to be one of the greatest American poets of the 20th century…personally I do like a few of her poems, not ‘Daddy’ so much – much hype around it – . ‘lady lazarus’ and ‘fever 103’ are good. beside gloom and depression – she could be clever and funny too – like this nine line she wrote about being pregnant – kind of whimsical. can’t remember the name.
and even if she isn’t the best she did influence a lot of poets writing today, too.
I think woolf said something about sometimes you have to bash in windows to get a breath of fresh air…that applies to her poetry in some ways
yi-ching lin photography 
lol, i’m scared
(laugh) right…thank you for that vote of confidence! (grinning)
Hi Tart of the Arts and Yi-Ching.
LOL–this scowls–“Don’t even think about stealing ME.”
i like the fist the chains make…
Vintage. ah! those cycles.
ah! those were the days!
(smile)
I love cycles.
oh yeah. those were the days, indeed!
are we all reminiscing about our childhoods here? (smile) thank you!
not me, my family couldn’t afford to buy me a bike.
i was sixteen and had a job when learnt to ride a bike.
i know
“what, in england!!!!!!”
what?!? in england?!?! last month, i just watched Sylvia for the first time (with Gwyneth Paltrow and Daniel Craig), and there’s a great intro scene of her riding her bike to school in England.
I do like some Plath, she really knows how to manipulate emotion…’Sylvia’ is a good movie, too.
i don’t remember liking her growing up, but i haven’t read her since. there’s depressing, and then there’s manipulative. the movie was interesting as a biography, though, and i don’t think she’s supposed to be likeable.
I didn’t read her either, I read ‘the Bell Jar’ in high school, it’s such a depressed highschoolers book – and I had a copy of Ariel. yeah, I don’t think she is meant to be likable – I remember reading somewhere that she struggled to establish herself as a “real” poet, not a woman who is a poet – that requires some unlikability and roughness..and manipulation of language and emotion, I guess…
i’m not sure that’s an excuse. and what’s the difference between a “real” poet and “a woman who is a poet?”
the notion that women can only make sentimental art, that they can’t subvert meaning or control emotion, but just let it out uncontrollably..i think that distinguished the ‘woman poet’ at least in ’67 or whenever. she meant to resist that image..but in the process i think she goes overboard, overdoes it a little
ah, with many things, i find that the harder you try, the closer you find yourself back to square one…(smile). i can’t decide if i’m a ’67 “woman poet” or not (grin).
Ha, I dislike Plath’s poetry just for the poetry and nothing about her. Don’t like the ‘work’ at all–never have and probably never will. Bell Jar was sort of interesting for the mentality it expressed but–but who wants to be ‘Plath’? Not moi. Though I did know a dude that so loved Plath I dubed him “PLath’s Man”. So NO PLATH for my daily readiing doses. Nope. LOL.
(laugh) i don’t remember liking the Daddy poem we had to read in high school.
Hate that poem. Plath was such a whiner. I wonder if I’m the only person who is not sorry she did the oven gig and succeeded. Awful thing to say–but–hey, otherwise she’d have kept on writing and –well, I don’t have to read her. But her greatness eludes me.
she’s supposed to be one of the greatest American poets of the 20th century…personally I do like a few of her poems, not ‘Daddy’ so much – much hype around it – . ‘lady lazarus’ and ‘fever 103’ are good. beside gloom and depression – she could be clever and funny too – like this nine line she wrote about being pregnant – kind of whimsical. can’t remember the name.
and even if she isn’t the best she did influence a lot of poets writing today, too.
I think woolf said something about sometimes you have to bash in windows to get a breath of fresh air…that applies to her poetry in some ways